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1.
Original Movie Posters
Authenticating Original Movie Posters - Can you tell me if my poster is original?
2.
Movie Posters: Factors That Determine Value
3.
All About Fakes and
Reprints
4.
"Minty White" Fake Inserts
5.
STAR WARS
Bootlegs/Restrikes/Fakes
6.
BEWARE OF FAKE MOVIE POSTERS!!
7.
Caring
For Movie Posters
8.
Cheap Framing
9.
Tips on Framing
10.
About Autographs
11.
Linen Backing: A Method of
Poster Conservation
12.
Photographing Posters
13.
Buying From
Auction Houses, What You Need to Know
14.
Revenge of the Jedi
15.
Re-Strikes
16.
What are your posters worth? Are they original? Will
you buy my posters?
17.
Linen Backing
and Restoration: How Does It Affect Value?
18.
Seeing Fakes, Angry Traders Confront Ebay
19.
Pulp Fiction Advance One Sheet: Beware of Bootlegs
20.
Beware of Fake Scarface One Sheets and Inserts
21.
Beware of Fake Jaws Inserts
22.
Beware of Fake Blade Runner Inserts and One Sheets
23.
I Have Some Old Movie Posters and I'm Thinking of
Selling Them: What Can I Expect?
24.
Saving Private Ryan
25.
I Was A Star-Dinger!
26.
Charges of Fraud Rock The Collectible Movie Poster
Market and Hobby
27.
“1931″ Dracula One Sheet Poster Determined to be
Fake...
Please also see our
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Movie Poster Guide * Movie Poster Info
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Original Movie Posters
By David A. Lieberman
An
original movie poster can be defined as: A poster that was issued for a movie by
the National Screen Service (NSS), or by a movie studio, or by another company
authorized by the studio for display in an actual movie theatre at the time of
the films original release.
Advertising posters used outside a theater (wilding, bus shelter, subway, and
billboard) during an original release are also considered original movie
posters.
There are also "Studio Issued" original movie posters. These were printed at the
same time as theatrical display posters. Although usually not meant for
theatrical display, they are still considered original. They were distributed to
"insiders" and those who worked on the film.
Posters
that were made to be sold to the public in stores or on line are
reproductions/reprints or restrikes and are NOT original movie posters, even if
they were printed around the time of the films release. Films that are very
popular usually have all kinds of reproductions, licensed and unlicensed
(bootlegs) and they are always on eBay. The market is flooded with them.
Sometimes reproductions are so close in quality to originals that it is VERY
hard to tell them apart.
Video
posters are NOT "Original Movie Posters". They were issued to advertise the
movies release on videotape or dvd, not during the films original theatrical
release. They are called Original Video Posters and usually have very little
value. Some of them can be quite collectible and valuable, but usually not.
Some original movie posters are HIGHLY collectible and can be worth thousands of
dollars. Reproduction posters are not very collectible and usually have little
if any value.
Just because a seller lists a poster in the ORIGINAL MOVIE POSTERS category on
eBay, does NOT mean it is an original movie poster. Sellers often list their
reproduction posters there because they know they will be seen by more people as
no one really browses the non original category.
Older U.S. posters prior to the mid 1980's were usually (not always) issued folded
while newer U.S. posters are always issued rolled. Vintage original movie posters
were normally printed in very limited quantities, thus they are usually pretty
rare. All of them were not meant to be saved. After their initial use they were
supposed to be returned to the studio or destroyed.
Usually, the older the poster, the rarer it is. Original movie posters usually
contain an NSS information tag/paragraph and number. However, this is not always
true. There are plenty of original movie posters that do not contain NSS info. To complicate matters, just because a poster has an NSS tagline, NSS
number, and a GAU (printer's union) logo, does not necessarily mean it is an
original movie poster. There are many fakes and reprints that have this printed
on them to make them appear more authentic.
Common standard sizes include: One Sheet 27"x41" or 27"x40", Insert 14"x36",
Half Sheet 22"x28", Three Sheet 41"x81", Six Sheet 81"x81", Lobby Card 11"x14",
Window Card 14"x22". Measurements on these can vary slightly, but usually by no
more than a half inch or so.
Common Reproduction sizes (not original movie posters) are: 24"x36", 20"x30",
11"x17" and anything slightly smaller than a standard size one sheet approx.
26"x39".
The above information applies to U.S. posters. Non U.S. movie posters have
different specs/sizes.
Authenticating Original Movie Posters
How can you tell if a movie poster
is "original" "real" "authentic"?
How do you know the posters we are
selling are real and not reproductions?
Can you tell me if my poster is
original?
Please
forgive us if we
have responded to your email by directing you to this link. We get
these questions all the time, often several times a day. We have been handling vintage
posters for over 30 years, we know what to look for. We only sell originals! A free
Certificate of Authenticity is available for each poster we sell.
Since 2003
this site has been used as a reference by people and businesses from all over
the world. We give advice to auction houses, beginning and advanced collectors,
memorabilia dealers, home theater designers, and every day poster buyers
worldwide. We have helped thousands of people determine
whether their posters are originals or reproductions. They constantly use our
site for authentication and information. We have written several
articles comparing known originals to "fakes". Some titles we have covered
include: Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back, Revenge of the Jedi, Pulp Fiction, Jaws, Blade Runner, Spider Man, Saving Private Ryan,
Scarface, as well as many others.
If we say a vintage poster is "original",
you can bet your bottom dollar that it is!
The only way we can possibly
tell if your poster is authentic is if you send it to us or if you email us
extremely detailed photos of the front and back. Please be advised that we
may not be able to give a definitive answer even with detailed photos.
Sorry, but we will no longer give free movie
poster authentication and grading tips by phone or by email.
Please do not call and ask us to help you authenticate or grade a poster if you
are not willing to send it to us for an evaluation.
We will not authenticate or grade posters over the phone or by email.
We can only help you if you wish to do business with us. If you'd like to
send posters to us to authenticate so we can
buy them from you or put them on consignment, please do!
If we have it in our possession, we can
authenticate it.
Please don't ask us "I saw this other poster for
sale from someone else, can you tell me if it is real?" or "Can you tell me
how to tell if this poster is real/original?"
A Few Tips For Authenticating
Original Movie Posters
There is
not one specific thing to look for when determining if a movie poster is original or
not. There can be many! All posters are different, and there are different
things to look for for each one.
Depending on the poster and what year it is from, here are just some of the
things we look for:
What is
the exact size in inches?
Where
did it come from?
Is it
folded or rolled?
If it is
from the 1970's-80's, does it
have a GAU logo?
Is there
an NSS number on the front?
Just because a poster has an NSS number on the front does not automatically make
it an "original". When a poster is copied/reproduced, the NSS number is often
reproduced as well in order make it look more authentic.
Is there
an NSS stamp on the back?
Does it "look" and "feel" right? Does it smell right?
What
kind of paper is it? matte, flat, glossy, regular paper, cardstock?
Is the
print quality acceptable? (blurry or sharp?)
Is it
stone or offset lithography?
Is it a popular title with known reproductions?
Are there known reprints or reproductions of it?
Is the
artwork slightly cropped?
Does it
say PORTAL PUBLICATIONS
on the bottom border? (if it does,
it is a reproduction
with no real value).
Is it
"minty white"? Does it look like it was printed yesterday?
Could it
possibly be an original "re
release" poster?
Is it
single or double sided? Just because a poster is double sided does not make it
authentic. There are plenty of double sided "fakes" for titles such as
Spider-man, The Matrix, The Dark Knight, as well as many others.
Every now and then we come
across an old movie poster in great shape that seems too good to be true. One that is very old,
unused, and in near pristine condition. Yes, there are Near Mint unused
vintage original movie posters. If you look at other collectibles,
there are coins, baseball cards and comic books that have survived for over
50 years in Near Mint condition. It doesn't happen often, but it does
happen.
People
send us photos all the time asking if their posters are original. We usually
can't answer definitively UNLESS WE SEE THE ITEM IN PERSON. We have handled many
thousands of vintage movie posters over the years. We know what to look for.
More than 99% of the time we can determine without a doubt, one way or the
other, if a poster is an original or a reproduction.
I'd like to send my posters to you, how do I proceed?
Please also see:
What are your posters worth? Are they original?
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Movie Posters: Factors That
Determine Value
By David A. Lieberman
The value of a movie poster depends on 6 primary factors; its
originality, its rarity, demand, its overall condition, the movie or stars popularity, and its beauty.
ORIGINALITY
Buying movie posters can be a wonderful experience, or it can be a
horrific nightmare. There are so many fake and/or reprint posters that appear to be
original
that sometimes even poster
dealers have a hard time determining what is authentic. Yes, there are
"fake" posters floating around out there (read more about this below). Most
people don't even know they have a fake. Many do know and try to pawn them off
to unsuspecting buyers on ebay! Fakes are virtually worthless.
RARITY
Prior to the 1990's,
original movie
posters were printed in limited quantities.
They were supposed to be returned to the studio or destroyed after use. Usually,
the older the poster, the rarer it is. . Some sizes of posters are much rarer and
thus more valuable than others. In the U.S. for example, very few
3 sheets and 6
sheets were printed thus they are extremely hard to come by compared to the
standard issue one sheet for the same title. Reprints and fakes are printed in
unlimited quantities, therefore they are not rare.
DEMAND
A poster
may be incredibly rare, but that alone does not make it valuable. There has to
be demand for it. For example, there are many obscure films from the 1920's and
1930's where almost no material exists. This does not mean that collectors want
posters from them or will pay a premium for them. On the other hand, there are
some posters that are in abundant supply yet they always sell at a premium
because demand for them is high (e.g. Star Wars style A one sheet).
CONDITION
The condition of a poster greatly affects its value. Since many people
inaccurately describe and grade their posters it is very easy to get "taken"
without actually seeing the poster in person. Any
restoration done will also affect value. We accurately describe all our
posters and use the
grading scale
for
movie posters developed by Jon Warren.
MOVIE OR STARS POPULARITY
People collect and display things
they love. Everyone has their favorite movie and favorite movie stars. A movie
or movie stars popularity is one of the determining factors of how collectible
and valuable a poster is. Marilyn Monroe and Elvis posters for example usually
demand a premium, even for lesser known movies they were in.
BEAUTY
If a movie poster has a great design or beautiful
artwork it can significantly increase it's value. One of the best examples of
this is the U.S. poster for the Noir film Chinatown.
Several foreign issues have
very colorful and incredible artwork, many times surpassing the U.S. version
in design quality.
For example, the Italian and British version of The Godfather
features a profile of Marlon Brando unlike the U.S. version making it highly
sought after. The Australian daybill for Halloween is the only poster
from the first Halloween movie to actually feature Michael Myers making it
extremely collectible and hard to obtain. The From Russia With Love
poster from the U.S. can not even compare to the beautiful stone litho French
version.
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All About Fakes and Reprints
By David A. Lieberman
Movie posters can be found at flea markets,
garage sales, local
poster shops, and especially on the internet and on
Ebay. There are also many
FAKES, “generously graded" items, frauds, scam
artists, reprints, reissues, reproductions, bootlegs, counterfeits, etc. Yes,
these items can be found in your local poster shop! They are CONSTANTLY being
pawned off on Ebay to unsuspecting, uneducated buyers. There are MANY people who are not poster
experts selling what THEY believe to be an original movie poster.
Inaccurate descriptions are quite common. Generally, one only has to worry about
blatant fakes for movies released after 1970. Fakes are only known to exist in
the insert, half sheet, and one sheet size.
REPRODUCTIONS exist for almost all
popular titles, but these usually are easily to spot. For example, years ago Portal
Publications was a company that reproduced MANY popular older posters. These
were licensed, but since some of these are actually 30 to 50 years old some
people mistake them for original movie posters. Another example is Suncoast.
For years they sold movie posters in their mall stores with labels marked
"Original Movie Poster". They were NOT original theater posters, they were
printed exclusively for the Suncoast stores. Suncoast was sued because of this
false label and has since changed the wording on their label.
Be careful!
Reprints, Reproductions, and Fakes are not issued by the studio or
NSS for theatrical display. They
are not valuable or collectible!
They are however found everywhere. At
first glance they may appear to be exactly the same as the original.
Most however are slightly smaller. They usually come in sizes similar to one sheets or inserts.
There are rare instances of posters being reprinted years later by the studio.
These usually differ slightly from the
real original studio issues. A good example of this is in the early 1980's all the
James Bond movie one sheets were reprinted as well as Raiders of the Lost Ark.
These constantly turn up on ebay.
There are
printers, mostly overseas (some licensed, some not) that copy the real studio
issued posters. Sometimes they are marked as reprints, sometimes they aren't.
They sell them in bulk mostly to shady U.S. poster dealers. Some dealers correctly
advertise and sell them as reprints, some do not. These printers now even print
double sided in an attempt to fool the
collecting novice. They are usually easy to spot due to subtle
differences in size and printing quality, although examples exist that are
meant to deceive, including popular
titles such as Jaws, all the Star Wars movies, Raiders of the lost Ark, Raging
Bull, Apocalypse Now, Taxi Driver, Blade Runner, Scarface, and others. Even
some of the newer popular titles like “Spiderman” and “The Matrix” have fakes
and reprints. BEWARE!
Reprints or fakes can be very
good, many times even fooling experts.
This is especially true for many of the
popular movies from the 70’s and 80’s. There are also some dealers
on ebay (criminals) selling what they claim are originals, KNOWING they are fakes. Believe it or
not, some of the dealers even BELIEVE the fake posters are real! Some just look
the other way.
These crooks are mainly from ROCHESTER, N.Y. and OKLAHOMA.
(There are a few others scattered around the U.S., the U.K., and the rest of the
world.) They have even gone as far as
setting up a VERY elaborate website to try and prove that their posters are
original. The site is full of ridiculous misinformation and blatant lies.
Anyone who questions them on the authenticity of one of these
fake posters is directed to the web site where a cartoonish looking
"Professor Powers" tells
you there are no fake movie posters, just different "printings" and/or they are
part of a "warehouse find". The web site is pathetic, there is no such person as
Professor Powers. It is a well known Rochester NY dealer (or maybe it's the guy
from Oklahoma?) with a fake wig and beard. If one was not an expert and did not
know any better and one of these dishonest dealers pointed you to this website,
you might tend to believe him.
Some of these
fraudulent dealers have been around for over
20 years! If you think being a dealer for a long time and having 1000+ positive
feedback on ebay makes one honorable….think again. Most people who buy from
these "dealers" don’t know they
have been ripped off, and they may never find out. Only when they go to sell
their fake
years later do they find out the bad news.
One
of the saddest things (and we see this quite frequently) is when an unknowing
collector tries to sell their fake. They absolutely refuse to face reality that
their poster is not genuine. They refuse to believe they were ripped off because
the dealer they got it from swore up and down that it was real, seemed so nice,
knowledgeable, and trustworthy (these are all the elements of a successful
thief!!). Their logic is "well, if a DEALER told me it is authentic then it
just has to be!!". This is absolutely absurd, but that is just the way some
people think.
Beware of "LIGHTLY FOLDED" Star Wars one sheets!!
Ebay scam artists are now lightly folding their fake rolled Style A, Style C, and Teaser B
one sheets. They are doing this because it makes them appear more authentic.
They are having trouble selling these rolled fakes so they are trying this method.
How do these deceitful
dealers get away with it? Well, this hobby is unregulated. There are no “poster
police”. It truly is “buyer beware”. Ebay has become a haven for criminal
activity, and they are unwilling and/or powerless to stop it.
Sadly, there is no
way for anybody to stop it!
So, how do you tell the
difference between real and fake movie posters? See our article below about
"Minty White" fake inserts. For more information on the origin of fakes and
reprints and how to spot them, please visit
learnaboutmovieposters.com.
In addition, there are a few chat rooms and message boards
on the internet that discuss many of the fake posters
in detail.
Even if a poster has an
NSS tagline
and a
GAU logo,
it does not guarantee authenticity. There are authorized reproductions of
classic 50's and 60's U.S. posters that include these.
Here are
just of few of the
many titles that have been reprinted or faked over the years. Some are easy to spot, some
are not. This list is not
complete, it is forever growing:
2001 A Space Odyssey, insert
A Clockwork Orange, insert,
British Quad
Alien, insert
Apocalypse Now, insert
Annie Hall, insert and one sheet
Barbarella, one sheet
Blade Runner, one sheet and insert
Breakfast at Tiffany's
Breakfast Club, one sheet
Casino, one sheet
Enforcer, insert and half sheet
Empire Strikes Back, Style A (Gone
with the Wind) insert and
Style A half sheet
Grease, insert
Goodfellas, one sheet
Halloween, one sheet
The Godfather, one sheet and
insert
Jaws, one sheet and insert
Jailhouse Rock, one sheet and
insert
Manhattan, one sheet and insert
The Matrix, one sheet
Pulp Fiction, recalled advance and
regular issue one sheet
Pretty Woman, one sheet
Raiders of the Lost Ark, one sheet
and insert
Raging Bull, one sheet and insert
Revenge of the Jedi, one sheet
Return of the Jedi, insert
Rocky, one sheet
Shaft, one sheet
Shining, insert
Sixteen candles, one sheet
Star Trek, insert
Star Wars style A, one sheet and
insert
Star Wars style B Advance Teaser, one
sheet
Star Wars style C, one sheet
Star Wars style D, one sheet
Saving Private Ryan, one sheet
Saturday Night Fever, insert
Scarface, one sheet and insert
Spiderman Advance and Regular, one sheet
Shawshank Redemption, one sheet
Taxi Driver, one sheet and insert
Terminator, one sheet
Wall Street, one sheet
LOBBY CARD SETS-
There are also a ton of fake lobby card sets from popular movies like Star Wars,
Empire Strikes Back, Jaws, Creature from the Black Lagoon, Goodfellas,
Caddyshack, etc., etc..
Here is a list recently compiled
by Bruce H (August 2008). It is far from being a complete list...but it is a
start:
ALIEN ('79)
ALIENS
ANNIE HALL
BLADE RUNNER
BLAZING SADDLES
BLUE VELVET
BLUES BROTHERS
CADDYSHACK
CASINO
DEER HUNTER
DIRTY DOZEN
EMPIRE STRIKES BACK
ENFORCER ('77)
FISTFUL OF DOLLARS
FOG ('80)
FOOTLOOSE
FOR YOUR EYES ONLY
FRENZY ('72)
GHOSTBUSTERS
GODFATHER II
GOODFELLAS
HARD DAYS NIGHT (1982 RE-RELEASE)
INDIANA JONES & THE TEMPLE OF DOOM
KING KONG ('76)
LIFE OF BRIAN
MAD MAX
MANHATTAN ('79)
MATRIX
MEAN STREETS
MEATBALLS
MIDWAY
MOMMIE DEAREST
MY BLOODY VALENTINE
NATIONAL LAMPOON'S VACATION
NEW YORK NEW YORK
ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO'S NEST
OUTLAND
PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: CURSE OF THE BLACK PEARL (Set of 14)
RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK
RED DAWN
RESERVOIR DOGS
RETURN OF THE JEDI
ROBOCOP 2
ROCKY HORROR PICTURE SHOW
SILENCE OF THE LAMBS
SPIDERMAN 2 (SET OF 10)
STAR WARS
STRIPES
TAXI DRIVER
TERMINATOR
TERMINATOR 2
THING ('82)
TOMBSTONE
WHO FRAMED ROGER RABBIT
WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH
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"Minty White" Fake Inserts
By David A. Lieberman
As you can see from the list
directly above, there are at least 20 highly collectible titles that have fake inserts. Inserts are
printed on card stock and measure 14" x 36". There has been much talk about this
topic within the past few years between the top dealers and collectors of movie
posters. Every major dealer and name in this hobby has expressed their opinion
on this and ALL agree that it is a MAJOR problem. The only ones who believe these
inserts are real are the ones who are selling them every week on ebay. They say
they are from "a warehouse find". This is total B.S.. They have an
endless supply. There are also a select
few fake lobby card sets and half sheets. Half Sheets measure 22" x 28" and are also on card stock.
So how do you spot them? Well
first of all, as far as anybody has researched, the above titles are the only
ones known with confirmed bootlegs. The bootlegs have the NSS info. and GAU
markings like the originals. If they
are "Minty White" and look brand new like they were printed
yesterday........they probably were! If they are glossy on both sides, they are
fake. If you see it for sale on ebay for a low "buy it now" price, and this same
dealer has been selling them continuously for years.....it is most likely a
fake. You can disregard their almost perfect feedback record....it is completely
irrelevant. They sell a ton of "real" original posters, but they also sell these
fakes continuously. They do not care that they are ruining the hobby. None of the buyers knows they have been burned until it is
too late and they have already left positive feedback. These dealers prey on newbies that are unaware that fake posters even exist!!
THE TRUTH BEHIND THESE FAKES:
Some time ago, a few
ROCHESTER, NEW YORK and OKLAHOMA poster dealers
got together and hired a printer to run off thousands of these bogus posters.
The printer did not know what he was doing was illegal. Not that it matters
anyway because no one would press charges against him. These criminal dealers
are counterfeiters, they got away with it, and continue to get away with it!!
If you are
the unfortunate owner of one or more of these and you ever try to sell them, you
will be lucky if you get more than $5.00 for them. No reputable dealer or
knowledgeable buyer will go near them.
How do experts know they are
fakes? The major problem with these posters is that they are printed on a type
of paper that has never been used to print any other movie poster....ever! They
look BRAND NEW. They are glossy on both sides (usually). The cropping, markings,
and artwork is sometimes slightly different from known originals when compared
side by side. The printing quality is pretty good....but not as good as
originals when examined closely.
There were thousands of movies
released during the same era (1970's - early 1980's). Other than the above
highly collectible titles.......NOT ONE OF THESE COMMON ORDINARY "NOT VERY
COLLECTIBLE" TITLES HAS EVER APPEARED ON THE SAME KIND OF PAPER AS THESE
OBVIOUSLY FAKE INSERTS. The fact is they are pretty easy to spot, but
only if you are familiar with what a real insert looks and feels like.
These same unscrupulous dealers
that have an endless supply of these fake inserts also regularly sell fake one
sheets including Star Wars Teaser B's, "Hairy Belt" Star Wars Style A's, fake
Star Wars Style C's, Bootleg "Miramax stamped" Pulp Fiction, Spiderman "recalled
version" ....... as well as many others.
UPDATE: There are
also fake
"re strike" inserts for many titles. Blade Runner, Jaws, Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back, and Scarface are a few of the
popular ones. They usually
look brand new and are printed on a "minty white" card stock paper. These
bootlegs
have fooled practically every poster dealer/expert out there, including some of
the major auction houses! The quality is superior to most fakes. This is because
they come from the same NSS printing facility as the originals. Sometime in the mid to
late 1980's (well after the films were released) there was an unauthorized print run
for many titles done after hours by some shady
employees. They collaborated with some criminal poster
dealers/distributors.....and now they are everywhere!!!
If you look
carefully at most of the bootleg titles you can see where the artwork is slightly cropped on
the outer edges.
Why is the artwork
cropped? Why wouldn't the counterfeiters try to reproduce them EXACTLY from the
original printing plates? These questions have puzzled movie poster collectors
for years. No one really knows why....but we can hypothesize. Maybe the original
plates were missing or damaged, and maybe they had to create new plates. Since
they came from the same place as the originals (an NSS printing facility), the
counterfeiters had all the materials needed to closely recreate them as best
they could.
These unauthorized re strikes measure a full 14"x36"....just like the originals.
We call these
"unauthorized re strikes". Some call them fakes, some call them bootlegs, some call
them counterfeits. Some anonymous guide writers on ebay (these are the guys who
are selling them!) are now claiming they are "garbage" runs from the printing
facility. They are just trying to make them sound legitimate.
Regardless.....whatever one wishes to call them.....they are NOT original movie
posters!! All collectors should avoid these fakes like the plague!!
Since
these counterfeits are now over 20 years old, they are starting to age and in
some cases are no longer bright white. If not looked at very carefully they can
easily be mistaken for an original.
8 factors that will help you to
determine if you have a fake/bootleg movie poster:
A fake movie poster may not
possess all the characteristics described below, but it will definitely have
most of them.
1.
Is it "minty white"? Just because a poster looks brand new does not mean it is a
fake. It is just the first obvious sign that it is. This must be combined with
at least some of the other factors below to confirm it is a fake.
2.
Have they been continuously for sale by the same
Rochester, NY
and Oklahoma dealers for the past
10+ years?
3.
Are they slightly blurry when compared to undisputed originals?
4.
Is the art work slightly different
(slightly cropped) when compared to known originals?
5.
Is the suspect title one that is highly collectible?
6.
Is it on a glossy type of paper, usually both sides glossy, that has not been
used on any other type of movie poster ever? (except for the confirmed 19 or so
highly collectible bootlegged titles listed above)
7. Are the overall measurements
significantly different than known originals? Bootlegs often are smaller by at
least a quarter of an inch or more, but this is not always the case.
8. Did you buy it for a "steal"?
If you think you got a great deal by buying a poster on ebay, go back and look
at the auction. Was the auction description vague? Did the seller have a lot of
feedback? Was he from Rochester or Oklahoma? Was the picture small or blurry? Did a lot of people bid
on it? Were they seemingly knowledgeable people judging by their
feedback/experience? Was it a "PRIVATE" auction? Dishonest sellers often make
their auctions private (you can't see the bidders identities) so honest people
can't warn bidders that they are about to be ripped off.
UPDATE:
Minty Whites That Aren't Minty White Anymore!!
In June 2007 we acquired a Jaws insert that looked and felt right. It
was not "minty white", was not glossy on both sides, and the printing was
fantastic. We listed it as an original. We had no reason to believe it wasn't
authentic. We have handled a TON of fake inserts....so we know what to look for.
This one completely fooled US!! It was originally acquired in 1999 on ebay from a known fake seller in Oklahoma. The paper has aged!! It does NOT
look fake anymore!! Someone brought it to our attention and after a little
investigating we found out where it originated from. These things are
DANGEROUS!!! and as time goes by they are going to look more and more real and
fool more and more people. They are ruining the hobby for new collectors.
BEWARE!!!
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STAR WARS Bootlegs/Restrikes/Fakes
By David A. Lieberman
Tons of fakes exist for the Style
A, B, and C one sheets. The Style A insert has also been faked (see above).

Style A
Style B Teaser Style C
There
DEFINITELY ARE
bootlegs/restrikes/fakes/whatever you want to call them. They are always on ebay
for sale from a few unscrupulous dealers (the same ones who sell the fake "minty
white" inserts, the fake "Miramax stamped" Pulp Fiction advances, as well as
others). These dealers WRONGLY advertise them as ORIGINAL movie posters (in
fact, they HAVE TO say they are original because ebay policy forbids selling
counterfeit items!!). THEY
ARE ABSOLUTELY NOT REAL, AUTHENTIC, OR ORIGINAL! They were printed without authorization using the same plates and
printed on the same printing press sometime in the mid to late
1980's. I AM 100% CERTAIN OF THIS. They are not
"original movie posters".
They are of outstanding quality though and they still fool many dealers today.
They are exactly the same size and the print quality is almost exactly the same. All of
this has been well documented before. In short, in the late 1980's Lucasfilm sued and had a bunch of them destroyed. Some of them (a lot of them!)
escaped.
They contain
most of the same markings, BUT...there
are obvious differences if you compare them side by side. The most notable
differences are:
Style A 1sh-
bootleg/restrike/fake has a hair on Luke's belt.
Style B 1sh- bootleg/restrike/fake has NO GAU logo on the bottom
Style C 1sh- bootleg/restrike/fake has a hair Leia's back.
The only people
on planet earth who believe these posters are authentic originals are the
criminals who have been selling them every week on ebay for the past 5 plus
years. Most of these dealers for some reason come from Rochester. There is also
one in Oklahoma and few in other parts of the U.S. and the rest of the world. They have an
endless supply. Since word has spread among knowledgeable dealers and collectors, it has
become difficult for them to sell these rolled mint fakes....so what do they do
now? They make them appear more authentic by saying they are "theater used".
They lightly fold them or put pin holes in the corners. They also have now
started linen backing them. They sell these fakes along with thousands of other
genuine original real posters from other movies. Their feedback is usually near
perfect because those who have been duped HAVE NO IDEA!! They have ripped off
thousands of people over the years, these fake posters are everywhere!!
These crooks have even set up an elaborate website with a
phony "Professor Powers". Anyone who questions these dealers on the authenticity
of their items is told to visit the website where this fictional professor
basically says there are no such thing as fakes/bootlegs. The site is a total
joke and a complete scam.
Dealers have known about these fakes for quite some time.
Some choose to ignore the facts because they paid a lot for them and are still
trying to unload them.
The Official Tomart's Price Guide to Worldwide Star Wars
Collectibles makes reference to these fakes.......BACK IN 1997! This book was
authorized by Lucasfilm. It's author, Steve Sansweet, is an employee of
Lucasfilm.
Page 135: "Unfortunately, most of the Star Wars style A,
B-advance and C one-sheets being sold widely today are bootlegs (the quality is
a little less than perfect, with images a bit more hazy than they should be), as
are many Revenge of the Jedi posters and the infamous U.S. Triple Bill poster.
The artwork on fake style A posters is slightly smaller than the original, and
the "©1977 Twentieth Century-Fox" line directly under the artwork on the left
side is flush with the border on the bootleg, rather than being indented about
one-eighth inch like the real one. The color is also slightly different. Bootleg
style B posters have some smearing around a few of the letters, and the oval
union label to the left of center in the bottom border is missing. On style C
bootlegs, the faces of the characters have a yellowish cast, rather than the
original orange-brown flesh tone."
THIS INFORMATION CAN ALSO BE FOUND IN THE NEW STAR WARS POSTER BOOK
PUBLISHED IN 2005 BY LUCASFILM.
On page 289 of this book, it goes into detail describing these unauthorized
restrikes.
In early 2005, a genuine rolled mint Style C sold for over
$1000.00 on ebay.
In 2004, a genuine rolled Style A sold for $650.00 on ebay.
In 2005 we sold one on ebay for over $1500.00!!
In 2004, a genuine rolled Style B sold for $575.00 on ebay.
There are also fakes for "The Empire Strikes Back" and the
recalled one sheet for "Revenge of the Jedi". For details on these please see
our
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BEWARE OF FAKE MOVIE POSTERS!!
By David A. Lieberman,
written for Ebay Guides
There is a
good reason why this is the NUMBER ONE RANKED GUIDE in the Movie Memorabilia
category on eBay. People are sick and tired of getting ripped off by shady
dealers!
Every major professional movie poster dealer and knowledgeable long time
collector knows that there are FAKE movie posters all over Ebay. These are
illegally printed non licensed reproductions made with the intent to deceive
novice buyers. They are NOT ORIGINAL MOVIE POSTERS and have little if any
value. They are from very popular movies (the "good titles", the ones
everyone wants).
Some of these bootlegs have been around SINCE THE LATE 1980'S.....FOR OVER
20 YEARS! They are very good quality fakes and often fool some experienced
dealers and collectors. Some of the ones you see are from sellers who
honestly don't know they are not original, BUT THERE ARE A FEW BAD GUYS who
know exactly what they have! They have been selling them to newbies (new,
non experienced collectors) for years on ebay and at collector shows. They
have an endless supply of these reproductions. Their ebay feedback is great
because buyers do not know they have been ripped off (until it is too late).
These con artists also sell a lot of authentic material, but a good portion
of their sales are of bootleg/fake posters. There is no way for anyone to
prove they are fake, so they will be able to continue selling them. There
are no "poster police" and the major studios really do not care. If you ask
any reputable poster dealer or poster expert that has had the opportunity to
closely examine them, they will tell you these are not original movie
posters.
These bozos have even gone as far as setting up a SCAM website with a phony
"Professor Powers" to help sell their fakes. The "Professor" claims to be a
former NSS employee with inside knowledge about movie posters. The
"Professor" is not a real person. He is actually a dishonest dealer from
Rochester N.Y. with a pathetic looking fake beard and wig. The scam website
was built by 2 shady dealers from Rochester (Tom and Ed) with the help of
another dishonest dealer in Oklahoma (Rick). It is full of ridiculous lies
and misinformation.
Star Wars
THIS INFORMATION CAN ALSO BE FOUND IN THE NEW STAR WARS POSTER BOOK
PUBLISHED IN 2005 BY LUCASFILM.
On page 289 of this book, it goes into detail describing exactly what is
said below. There ARE bootlegs of Star Wars posters! Don't let any dishonest
seller try and tell you otherwise. These bootlegs are of exceptional
quality, and to the untrained eye can easily appear authentic. The reason
they appear so real is because they were printed from the same plates as the
originals, only it was done over 10 years later in the late 1980's! There
are very subtle differences, you have to know what to look for or you can
easily be fooled.
Look out for "lightly folded" Star Wars style A, B, and C full size 27"x41"
one sheets. These are the most counterfeited movie posters in history! To
make them appear "theater used", the bad guys have started to fold them
because they were having trouble selling them rolled. It makes them appear
more authentic if they are folded. Sometimes after they fold them they put
pin holes in them and even go as far as getting them linen backed! The style
A bootleg will have a small hair on Luke's belt, the style B bootleg will be
missing the GAU logo, and the Style C bootleg will have a small hair on
Leia's back. If you ask the few unscrupulous dealers who have an endless
supply of these (they have been selling them non stop on Ebay since the late
90's) they will try to convince you that they are just a "printing
variation" that is common with all movie posters. This is a blatant lie, but
to an uninformed new collector it sounds like a reasonable excuse. None of
these fakes has EVER come from a theater and none were EVER printed for
theater use. These are UNAUTHORIZED RESTRIKES!! (see below). They have been
around since the late 80's and they are of excellent quality. These fakes
were first documented in The Tomarts' Price Guide to Worldwide Star Wars
Collectibles.....back in 1997!!! They are also documented in the new 2005
Star Wars Poster Book. These books are authorized by Lucasfilm. The author
is Steve Sansweet who is THE Star Wars collectibles expert and is employed
by Lucasfilm. Anyone who tries to convince you that these are authentic
original one sheets is just flat out lying to you. They normally sell these
fakes for about $100.00. Authentic original ones will typically sell for
many hundreds of dollars and sometimes well over $1000.00.
There are also fake "minty white" 14"x36" insert movie posters for Star
Wars, The Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi (see below).
These bootlegs are now about 20 years old! Some can even look aged/old like
an original. There are many thousands in circulation.
Also be wary of Revenge of the Jedi one sheets. These were bootlegged within
a few months of the posters initial release/recall back in 1982!! The fakes
are now 25 years old, just like the originals!! There are at least 3
different kinds of bootlegs of this one!!
Pulp Fiction etc.
Beware of Pulp Fiction recalled advance one sheets. Real ones are extremely
scarce and can sell for over $1000.00. The bad guys had a rubber "PROPERTY
OF MIRAMAX FILMS" stamp made and take the common $8.99 reproduction poster
and stamp the back of it to make it appear authentic. Real Pulp Fiction
advances do not have this stamp. Miramax has NEVER stamped any of their
posters!! There are also some other differences between the fake and
original (this info. can be found elsewhere). LOOK OUT! The thieves in
Rochester have also started selling them for "Buy it Now" $75.00. Sometimes
with the ridiculous stamp, sometimes without it.
Also be wary of rolled or lightly folded full size 27"x41" Scarface (regular
style U.S.) one sheets. These are some of the best bootlegs out there! These
are extremely difficult to spot.
Beware of Friday the 13th one sheets that measure 27"x40" and not a full
27"x41". They are restrikes from the early 1990's.
Beware of Raiders of the Lost Ark one sheets that measure 27"x40" and not a
full 27"x41". They are restrikes from the early 1990's.
Beware of Manhattan style B "Bridge" rolled one sheets. They measure a full
27"x41" but most you will find are restrikes.
Beware of FOLDED fake TAXI DRIVER one sheets. These thieves are buying a
cheap $10.00 reproduction poster, folding it, and then selling it for
$170.00 or more.
What is a Restrike?
A RESTRIKE IS NOT AN ORIGINAL MOVIE POSTER!! They were NOT printed for
theater use. They are posters that were printed (usually from the original
plates) well after the films release. Usually MANY years after. Sometimes
they were authorized by the studio, sometimes they weren't. They were sold
to dealers in bulk and also directly to collectors through mail order ads.
Sometimes it is very hard to determine whether a poster is an original or a
restrike.
Double
Sided Bootlegs!
Look out for double sided reproduction/fake one sheets of some current
titles including:
Spiderman (recalled Twin Towers style), The Matrix, Saving Private Ryan, The
Shawshank Redemption, Star Wars Phantom Menace Episode 1 Teaser.
Yes, there ARE double sided bootlegs out there!! These are of exceptional
quality and come from Europe.
"Minty White"
Counterfeit 14"x36" Inserts
Beware of "minty white" (like they were printed yesterday) 14"x36" inserts.
There are roughly a few dozen popular titles from the 70's and early 80's
that have fake bootleg inserts. Some of the titles include Star Wars, Empire
Strikes Back, Jaws, Taxi Driver, The Godfather, Raiders of the Lost Ark, A
Clockwork Orange, Alien, Star Trek, Blade Runner, Scarface, etc.. These
minty whites are constantly available from the same sellers for about $70.00
to $100.00. If you question them they claim they are part of a "warehouse
find". The truth is that some unscrupulous dealers from Rochester N.Y. and
Oklahoma got together some years ago and illegally printed thousands of
them. They have been flooding the market with them ever since. If you buy
one and compare it side by side with a known original, you will have no
doubt it is not real. In addition to being minty white, there are other
factors like paper and print quality that prove they are fake.
UPDATE: Minty Whites
That Aren't Minty White Anymore!!
In June 2007
we acquired a Jaws insert that looked and felt right. It was not "minty
white", was not glossy on both sides, and the printing was fantastic. We
listed it as an original, we had no reason to believe it wasn't. We have
handled a TON of fake/repro inserts....so we know what to look for. This one
completely fooled US!! It was originally acquired about 6-7 years ago on
ebay from a known fake/repro seller in Oklahoma. The paper has aged!! It
does NOT look new anymore!! Someone brought it to our attention and after a
little investigating we found out where it originated from. It is certainly
not from the original release in 1975, we believe it is a restrike from the
1980's. These things are DANGEROUS!!! and as time goes by they are going to
look more and more real and fool more and more people. They are ruining the
hobby for new collectors. BEWARE!!!
"Minty White"
Counterfeit 11"x14" Lobby Card Sets
Beware of "minty white" lobby card sets from popular titles from the 70's
and 80's (see list above). These are very easy for the bootleggers to
reproduce because of their small size. Believe it or not, they have even
started printing sets that have never before existed! A good example of this
is the U.S. "Halloween" lobby card set. There were NO U.S. lobby cards
produced for this movie, so someone in Rochester, N.Y. decided to make their
own!!
Please note: This guide has not mentioned every title that there are fake
posters for! There are plenty of others that are not listed here. Also, just
because a poster appears new and minty white does not mean it is a fake.
There are plenty of older posters that have survived in this condition.
Since many of these bootlegs have been around now for quite a few years,
some are now starting to be sold again on ebay from the original duped
buyers. They honestly don't know they have fake posters and they are
inadvertently ripping off new buyers!
Who are the ones
selling these fakes?
We can't say here (and please don't email us asking who they are). All we
can say is beware of certain dealers. With a little detective work outside
of Ebay you can easily find out exactly who they are. There are movie poster
forums, movie poster chat rooms, and other places that discuss everything
about movie posters and you can find the answers there.
Where do they come from?
As we said above, many of the fakes come from Rochester N.Y. and from
Oklahoma.
If it looks too good to be true, it probably is.
Guide ID:
10000000001405090Guide created:
07/16/06 (updated 08/15/07)
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Caring for Movie Posters
By David A. Lieberman
There have been many articles on
this subject so I will only touch on it briefly. If you are going to display
a vintage poster,
linen backing
and then framing it is the best way. Not all posters need linen backing however,
but if it is an older poster and you wish to preserve it, it is a good idea. If
you are not going to linen back it, it should be framed with acid free backing
and UV filtered Plexiglas.
Do not use glass.
Glass can stick to the face of a poster over time. Do not have your poster dry
mounted to foam core as many collectors believe this to be undesirable.
If you collect posters and you do
not wish to frame all of them, storing them can become a challenge. The
preferred method for
rolled posters
would be flat, but this is not feasible for everyone so the next best thing is
to store them rolled, but NOT in cardboard tubes. The acid from cardboard can
age/yellow a poster. Plastic tubes are fine. Some say that over time fumes from
PVC tubes can stain posters. We keep our rolled posters wrapped in plastic bags
and insert them into open tubes and keep them out of the light to help prevent
aging/yellowing. Rolled posters should be stored STANDING UP if possible. If a
rolled poster is stored lying down, over time it may sag and waves can develop.
For long term storage of
folded posters we keep them in Mylar bags with acid free backing,
NOT REGULAR CARDBOARD.
Folding and unfolding posters can
cause excessive wear on the fold lines and possibly cause separations. Try not
to unfold your stored posters.
Light Box Displays look great in
home theatres, however they can fade posters over time and ruin their value. Do
not put expensive posters in them.
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Cheap Framing
By David A. Lieberman
If you have a
lot of posters, displaying them can cost a small fortune. All acid free
materials should be used. Never use Glass. Glass can stick to the face of the
poster over time. Never use regular cardboard for backing as it is very acidic
and will stain/yellow a poster over time.
The following is a
cheap, safe way to frame your posters and they are easy to remove and replace
with others as desired. This is the method we use in our showroom.
Buy foam core and
Plexiglas,
these should be available at a wholesale plastics or framing supplier. Be sure
to ask for acid free foam core.
They come in 4' x 8'
sheets. Foam cor is about $8.00/sheet.
It comes in black and white, but black looks really good if you plan on leaving
borders. Buy non glare Plexiglas one sixteenth of an inch thick for about
$35.00/sheet. UV filtered sheets cost quite a bit more ($60.00 to $80.00). If
your poster is valuable, don't skimp! Get the UV filtered!.
Cut foam core and
plastic about 2 to 3 inches larger than the poster on all sides. The plastic
supplier should be able to cut the plastic for you for a nominal price.
You can frame 3 one
sheets from a 4' x 8' sheet of Plexiglas.
Use
small office paper binder clips to hold it all together. This works surprisingly
well!! You can remove the steel handles from the clips after you put them on for
a much cleaner look.
Now, how do you
hang it? On the top border in the middle about 1 inch from the top of the
Plexiglas, mount on the back a picture hanger. You will have to drill through
the Plexiglas and fome cor 2 small holes to do this. You can buy the picture
hanger at Home Depot and mount it to the back with tiny screws you will also
have to buy.
To frame a one sheet costs less than $20.00. If you use UV filtered Plexiglas it
costs about $35.00. It is well protected and the poster will not slide/move at
all. It is very light weight and sturdy enough to hang. I've done all sizes
including 3 sheets and French One Panels and they look fantastic!!!
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Tips on Framing
By David A. Lieberman
The right frame
is very important for preserving your original valuable movie posters. NEVER use
glass! Glass can stick to the face of a poster over time. Even if the framer
uses a mat the poster will almost always touch the glass in the middle. You
should use
UV filtered
Plexiglas
to help prevent fading. We prefer the non glare kind.
For backing, use archival all ACID FREE materials like acid
free foam core. NEVER use cardboard as a backing because it is acidic and can
cause yellowing.
For linen backed posters: Never trim the linen
right up to the edge of the poster. Always leave at least a half inch or more
border all the way around the poster.
DO NOT EVER HAVE YOUR POSTERS MOUNTED TO FOAM
CORE!
DO NOT TRUST
YOUR LOCAL FRAMER!
We get several phone calls every year from
frantic collectors saying that their framer has just ruined their poster.
The first thing a framer usually wants to do is
dry mount a poster to foam core.
Never let your framer mount it to foam core! It
will be considered ruined by the collecting community and VERY difficult to
sell. Dry mounting is a permanent process that is extremely difficult if not
impossible to undo. If your framer insists that it will be fine, turn around and
walk out of the shop. If your framer says that he won't mount it, and then does
it anyway.....tell him you want to be reimbursed for the full value of the
poster because it is now ruined.
Never let your framer use ANY kind of tape, or
sticky spray, or ANYTHING WHATSOEVER to
secure your poster to the backing. Not even removable tape and not even acid
free tape.
THE POSTER SHOULD SIT LOOSELY IN THE FRAME.
THE POSTER SHOULD SIT LOOSELY IN THE FRAME.
THE POSTER SHOULD SIT LOOSELY IN THE FRAME.
THE POSTER SHOULD SIT LOOSELY IN THE FRAME.
You need to take charge with your framer! Do
not be afraid! It is your poster. Threaten them if you have to.
We offer archival museum quality frames
here.
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About Autographs
By David A. Lieberman
Rarely do we
sell movie posters that have autographs. A few years ago, the FBI released a
study suggesting that up to 80% of celebrity autographs for sale are fake.
Even many for sale in high end "reputable" galleries were found to be fake. It
is next to impossible to verify an autograph, and it is extremely difficult to
get cast members from classic films to jointly sign a poster. Modern era
posters are the exception, but these are so easy to fake that finding
authentic ones is a virtual nightmare.
We are certain that
most celebrity autographs that you see today are just
not genuine. When we see "cast" signed movie posters on Ebay, we just cringe.
We can assure you that 99% of them are totally fake. Our customers often send
us these posters that come with Certificates of Authenticity. We just have
to roll our eyes and explain to them that a C.O.A. in today's world means absolutely nothing. "But they
have great feedback on ebay, so how can they be selling fakes?" Good feedback
on ebay does not guarantee that a seller is selling genuine items. This is a
cold hard fact that many people find out too late, usually years later when
they try to re-sell the item. Our professional reputation and credibility is
far more important to us then the proceeds from the sale of questionable
autographs. Occasionally though, we come across an autographed
poster where everything points to it being genuine and we can guarantee its authenticity.
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Linen Backing: A Method of
Poster Conservation
Linen backing can dramatically
improve the overall appearance of a poster and it can substantially increase
its value. It is an archival poster conservation method where the poster is
de-acidified and museum mounted with wheat paste onto acid free Japanese rice paper and adhered to
canvas. This process
provides stability and prevents possible deterioration. It smoothes and flattens out waves and
wrinkles and makes creases and folds much less noticeable (sometimes
invisible). If needed,
restoration can then be done.
Stains can be removed, tears can be repaired, paper can be replaced, and
fold lines can be touched up. Almost any flaw can be fixed so you would
never know it was there. Once linen backed, a
poster is easier to handle, is ready for framing, or it may be rolled for
shipping. If not framing a linen backed poster, we recommend storing it flat
and not rolled. Should a linen backed poster
sustain physical damage in the future, removal of the poster is possible.
This cannot be said for most other preservation methods. Framing a poster that
has already been linen backed is cheaper than framing one that hasn't been.
When a poster has been linen backed and/or
restored,
grading the item can be difficult. A poster that was in poor condition could
have extensive restoration and appear to be in near mint condition. Only an
expert would be able to tell how much restoration was done.
If a poster we have
has had any restoration, we describe its condition before and after whenever
possible.
The value of an expertly
restored linen backed poster is enhanced because the poster looks better, will
age far less, and is much EASIER TO FRAME. If a poster is linen backed by a
less talented restorer, the poster's value is often lessened. The restoration
is often noticeable, it often ages poorly, and can be very expensive to
reverse.
Buying linen backed posters is a
double-edged sword. The plus side is that the poster almost surely looks great
(because the restorer almost surely corrected the poster's flaws during the
linen backing process) and the poster is now far easier (and far less
expensive) to frame, but the down side is that some restorers are so talented
that it can be extremely difficult to tell how much restoration a poster has
had.
Linen backing is not absolutely necessary for most posters,
but for a valuable one it is a
good idea because it helps to preserve it.
Mounting a poster to foam core is not the same as linen backing. It is next to
impossible to reverse the process and most experts consider the poster
"damaged".
For posters on
cardboard stock like U.S. inserts, lobby cards, and half sheets, PAPER BACKING
(see below) is the method of conservation preferred by most professionals BUT ONLY IF
THE POSTER IS IN VERY BAD CONDITION. Some poster collectors would never mount
a cardboard stock poster to anything at all under any condition.
We have our posters linen backed (and restored if needed) by paper
conservation professionals. The people we use are world renowned and
considered to be the best in the business. If any restoration is done it is
usually very minor and involves touching up the fold lines to make them less
noticeable. This can actually increase the value.
WHAT IS PAPER BACKING?
When a poster has been "paperbacked" it means it has been professionally
mounted onto a piece of high quality Japanese rice paper, and then onto a
piece of acid-free backing board. During this process, almost all of the
posters defects have been corrected (or greatly minimized), and if the backing
was done by a talented professional, the poster looks great (some say "mint").
THIS IS A PROCESS SIMILAR TO "LINEN BACKING", but some collectors choose paper
backing instead, usually for those size posters (inserts, half-sheets, and
window cards) where the poster remains in a form similar to how it was when it
was unbacked (this is personal choice and not a matter of right or wrong).
For more information, please see
our linen backing
page.
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Linen Backing and Restoration: How
Does It Affect Value?
By David A. Lieberman
Linen backing is
NOT recommended
for newer posters, double sided posters, or for older
rolled
posters that are still in Near Mint Condition and need no restoration.
For older
folded
posters: If you don't like
fold lines and/or it is not in what
you consider "displayable condition", and you purchased it mainly to display
and enjoy, and you are not very concerned about its "investment potential",
then we recommend you go ahead and have it linen backed and preserved. If
you are a die hard movie poster investor/collector, you may want to think
twice about having an EX C8 or better condition poster backed. There is a belief among some
investor/collectors that EX C8 or better unrestored posters will command a premium over
restored/linen backed posters.
If a rare poster has some
unsightly flaws, linen backing and restoring it will most likely increase
it's value.
If a rare poster is in EX C8
condition or better with no real major unsightly flaws, linen backing will
either have almost no affect on its value or slightly decrease its value.
This really depends on how rare the poster is.
There are two types of buyers of
vintage movie posters: collectors and non collectors. A non collector buys
just one or a few posters for a home theater, a gift, or whatever. At least
50% of our sales are to non collectors. We have found that non collectors
generally prefer linen backed posters. Most true "Collectors" of vintage
movie posters would prefer an unrestored poster over a restored one. Most of
these collectors still collect linen backed posters however because many
titles are so rare and few have survived in great condition.
The bottom line: Linen backed
posters sell better than non linen backed posters because they appeal to
both collectors and non collectors. In most cases, you can't go wrong if you
have your poster linen backed.
Can linen backing be
reversed? No, not
really. Some linen backers will tell you it is a reversible process, but it
really isn't. If for any reason a poster needs to be removed from linen
(i.e. the initial linen backing was poorly done) the poster will almost
always have to be mounted again.
Please keep in mind that all linen backers are NOT created equal.
We have seen some horrible results from those that claimed to be professionals
but obviously weren't. DO NOT LET YOUR LOCAL FRAME SHOP ATTEMPT TO DO IT!
For more information, please see
our linen backing
page.
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Photographing Posters
By David A. Lieberman
You do not need to be a
professional photographer, nor do you need any expensive special equipment to
get great results.
Here is the best way to take
digital photos of movie posters:
Use a 5 mega pixel or better
camera. Natural light is the key. Do it outside, on a nice sunny day, not
on a windy day. Do it in a place where you won't be disturbed and away from your
pets. Place the poster on a sheet or rug on the ground IN THE SHADE, NOT IN
DIRECT SUNLIGHT. If it needs it, put books or something on the corners of the
poster to hold it down flat. Try not to cover any important details like NSS
info. or any flaws the poster may have. Set the camera on a "CLOUDY DAY" setting
with NO FLASH. Hold the camera directly over the middle of the poster about 4 to
5 feet from it and take the pictures. Hold the camera closer if you need close
ups of a certain area. They should come out perfect this way.
If they need a little editing,
you can crop them, adjust brightness/contrast, and resize them in a photo
editing software program. We use Paint Shop Pro.
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Buying From Auction Houses, What You
Need to Know
By David A. Lieberman
When major auction houses like
Christie's or Sotheby's hold an auction featuring movie posters, they usually
attract some of the rarest and most desired items out there. There are a few
things you should consider though before consigning or buying from them. They
are so big that they can and DO get away with murder.
For Consignors:
● Consignment fee can
be up to 30% of the final bid price.
●
Usually your items will be auctioned at NO RESERVE, which means they may sell
for
a fraction of what you think they are worth.
● There may be other
hidden fees in addition to the consignment fee.
● Once you consign the
poster to them it may be 6 months or more before
they hold the auction
and even longer until you get paid.
For Buyers:
● Buyer premiums can
add up to 20% or more to your final bid price.
● There may be hidden
fees i.e. sales tax.
● There may be NO
CHANCE of returning the item if you are unhappy with it.
● Outrageous shipping
costs in many cases, sometimes well over
$100.00 to ship a
single unframed poster.
● Photos on line and in
catalogs may have been digitally touched up/altered,
in many cases
disguising defects.
● For restored/linen
backed posters, their descriptions can sometimes be
vague and misleading.
● Confirmed cases of
shilling and/or auction house employees bidding on items.
● Their grading can be
VERY generous.
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Revenge of the Jedi
By David A. Lieberman
This poster along with the Star
Wars style A are the most copied, commemorated, and counterfeited movie posters
in history.
There are at least four different
bootlegs/reprints of the "Revenge of the Jedi Teaser Advance One Sheet".
We know of three different bootlegs of the dated version, and one of the "NO
DATE" version.

There were two original versions
of the Revenge of the Jedi Teaser Advance One Sheet printed in 1982. Both
versions are documented on the Lucasfilm authorized 1985 Official Star Wars
Checklist poster. The first "NO DATE" version was printed only once and was
issued exclusively to movie theaters. This version was issued early on before
20th Century Fox had a release date for the film, so the poster does not have
"Coming May 25, 1983 to your galaxy." at the bottom. This version is much, much
rarer than the second poster with the date. Both posters were issued rolled and
folded.
The Official Star Wars Checklist
poster states that there were only a small handful of the "NO
DATE" posters
made, then Fox decided on a release date for the film, and a second version of
the poster WITH THE DATE was printed. Shortly after the second poster was
printed Lucas decided to change the title to "Return of the Jedi", and the
poster was recalled/pulled from advertising use. Lucas took the
remaining left over stock WITH THE DATE and issued them for
purchase through the Star Wars fan club directly to collectors.
According to the L.A. Times,
quoting Kelly Miller (national advertising production manager at 20th Century
Fox at the time), there were about 8800 Revenge of the Jedi posters printed.
6800 of these went to the Star Wars fan club where they were sold for $9.50
each. The Times did not say how many were dated and how many were undated, but
other sources have speculated that only about 200 (some say less than 100) of the "NO DATE" version
were printed.
Because of all the fakes out
there, it is EXTREMELY difficult to find a REAL one. We have handled dozens over
the years so we know exactly what to look for. The first bootlegs appeared early
on in 1983, just a few months after they were recalled. These bootlegs are more
than 20 years old now. Many people who have them are convinced that their
bootlegs are real because they got them so long ago around the time of the films
release. We have people sending us these fakes constantly for authentication. It
is terrible having to break the news to them.
Since there are at least four
different bootlegs it is hard for most people to tell if they have an original.
One of the first bootlegs was copied from a folded poster so the fold lines are
evident. Some smart counterfeiters then folded these to try and pass them off as
real. Many times the fold lines don't match up. Other bootlegs are undersized.
Another version has a lighter area on the bottom right corner described as
"clouds" by some people. All bootlegs are on different paper and the colors and
sharpness are "off". For an expert, when compared side by side with a known
original, they are easy to spot.
This poster ranks right up there
with the Star Wars Mylar and Happy Birthday one sheets, as well as holding its
own against the original Concert poster. If you can find a real one it is well
worth cherishing.
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The following article could just
as easily have been written about fake/bootleg movie posters that are sold on
ebay.
Seeing Fakes, Angry Traders Confront
Ebay
By Katie Hafner, The New York
Times. January 29, 2006
SAN FRANCISCO, Jan. 28 — A year ago Jacqui
Rogers, a retiree in southern Oregon who dabbles in vintage costume
jewelry, went on
eBay
and bought 10 butterfly brooches made by Weiss, a well-known maker of
high-quality costume jewelry in the 1950's and 1960's.
At first, Ms. Rogers thought she had snagged a
great deal. But when the jewelry arrived from a seller in Rhode Island,
her well-trained eye told her that all of the pieces were knockoffs.
Even though Ms. Rogers received a refund after
she confronted the seller, eBay refused to remove hundreds of listings
for identical "Weiss" pieces. It said it had no responsibility for the
fakes because it was nothing more than a marketplace that links buyers
and sellers.
That very stance — the heart of eBay's
business model — is now being challenged by eBay users like Ms. Rogers
who notify other unsuspecting buyers of fakes on the site. And it is
being tested by a jewelry seller with far greater resources than Ms.
Rogers:
Tiffany & Company,
which has sued eBay for facilitating the trade of counterfeit Tiffany
items on the site.
If Tiffany wins its case, not only would other
lawsuits follow, but eBay's very business model would be threatened
because it would be nearly impossible for the company to police a site
that now has 180 million members and 60 million items for sale at any
one time.
Of course, fakes are sold everywhere, but the
anonymity and reach of the Internet makes it perfect for selling
knockoffs. And eBay, the biggest online marketplace, is the center of a
new universe of counterfeit with virtually no policing.
EBay, based in San Jose, Calif., argues that
it has no obligation to investigate counterfeiting claims unless the
complaint comes from a "rights owner," a party holding a trademark or
copyright. A mere buyer who believes an item is a fake has almost no
recourse.
"We never take possession of the goods sold
through eBay, and we don't have any expertise," said Hani Durzy, an eBay
spokesman. "We're not clothing experts. We're not car experts, and we're
not jewelry experts. We're experts at building a marketplace and
bringing buyers and sellers together."
Company officials say they do everything they
can to stop fraud. The company says only a minute share of the items
being sold at any given time — 6,000 or so — are fraudulent. But that
estimate reflects only cases that are determined by eBay to be confirmed
cases of fraud, like when an item is never delivered.
Experienced eBay users say that the fraud goes
well beyond eBay's official numbers, and that counterfeiters easily pass
off fakes in hundreds of categories.
"EBay makes a lot of money from a lot of small
unhappy transactions," said Ina Steiner, the editor and publisher of
AuctionBytes.com,
an online newsletter. "If you've lost a few thousand dollars, you might
go the extra mile to recover it. But if you've lost $50 or $20 you may
never be able to prove your case, and in the meantime eBay has gotten
the listing fee and the closing fee on that transaction."
The Tiffany lawsuit, in addition to accusing
eBay of facilitating counterfeiting, also contends that it "charges
hundreds of thousands of dollars in fees" for counterfeit sales.
In 2004, Tiffany secretly purchased about 200
items from eBay in its investigation of how the company was dealing with
the thousands of pieces of counterfeit Tiffany jewelry. The jeweler
found that three out of four pieces were fakes.
The case will go to trial by the end of this
year, said James B. Swire, an attorney with Arnold & Porter, a law firm
representing Tiffany. The legal question — whether eBay is a facilitator
of fraud — is a critical issue that could affect not only eBay's future
but Internet commerce generally, said Thomas Hemnes, a lawyer in Boston
who specializes in intellectual property.
"If eBay lost, or even if they settled and
word got out that they settled, it would mean they would have to begin
policing things sold over eBay, which would directly affect their
business model," Mr. Hemnes said. "The cost implied is tremendous."
But eBay members like Ms. Rogers have little
desire to wait for court decisions; they say that the uncontrolled flood
of fakes is driving down the value of the authentic goods.
For the past few months, Ms. Rogers and three
women she met on eBay who are also costume jewelry buffs have banded
together to track the swindlers they say are operating in their jewelry
sector. "People have faith that eBay will take care of them, but it
doesn't," Ms. Rogers said. "EBay has done nothing."
Carrie Pollack, who sells jewelry from her
home in Sudbury, Mass., and is part of Ms. Rogers's group, said an
authentic Weiss brooch of good quality could command $150. But she said
the profusion of counterfeits had confused the market and diluted the
value of such a pin to as little as $30.
"It's a situation that's facing all of us in
the jewelry world, and I suspect other decorative arts as well," said
Joyce Jonas, an antique jewelry specialist in New York. "It's totally
out of control."
Over the past few months Ms. Rogers and her
team have reported to eBay more than a thousand jewelry listings they
believe to be fakes; only a few listings have been removed.
The women say that by watching the listings
they have uncovered a ring of a half-dozen or so counterfeiters, most of
them living in Rhode Island within a few miles of one other. They say
the sellers supply one another with fake jewelry, conceal the fact that
they are buying from one another to boost their seller status, and
regularly dole out positive feedback to each other to fool potential
buyers.
Ms. Pollack was unaware of the abundance of
counterfeit pieces on eBay when she paid $360 for what she thought were
genuine pieces of Weiss jewelry. She demanded a refund from the seller,
who refused.
Ms. Pollack said it wasn't until she filed a
formal complaint with PayPal, eBay's online payment system, that the
seller offered to refund her money. Since then, she has sent eBay
officials a raft of evidence pointing out the presence of the
counterfeits, including an independent appraisal from Gary L. Smith, a
gemologist in Montoursville, Pa., who declared the five brooches Ms.
Pollack sent him to be unmistakable fakes.
This reporter, too, sent a butterfly brooch
with "Weiss" stamped on the back, purchased for $12.99 recently from one
of the alleged counterfeiters, to Mr. Smith. He determined that there
was nothing vintage about it — certainly not the very new glue used to
hold in the glass stones. (In a subsequent phone conversation, the
seller, Garnet Justice, who lives in Leesburg, Ind., said she had "no
idea" whether the pin was authentic, and offered a full refund.)
Antoinette Matlins, another gemologist, also
purchased five vintage pieces from the sellers tracked by Ms. Rogers's
group to determine their authenticity. She found them to be cheap
knockoffs worth less than 10 percent of their sale prices.
But she was not surprised. Whether online or
off, she said, "fraud is rampant in any venue where you are looking for
a steal."
EBay's feedback system that allows buyers to
post negative reviews of bad sellers is supposed to protect customers
like Ms. Pollack. Yet all of the alleged counterfeiters had consistently
positive ratings.
Ms. Steiner of AuctionBytes.com said this
situation was not uncommon. Buyers and sellers are often reluctant to
leave bad reviews, lest their own reputations suffer.
EBay does not allow members to contact other
potential buyers to warn them of possible fraud. Otherwise, said Mr.
Durzy, it would be too easy for someone to try to ruin the reputation of
a legitimate rival.
Ms. Rogers said she had no qualms about
breaking the rules by contacting buyers about fakes she spots. In
November, she even put up a listing that advertised a fake Christmas
tree brooch from Eisenberg Ice, a vintage costume jewelry maker, just to
make people aware of the fraud.
"The reason I am doing this is because eBay
won't," the listing read. "Let's stop this madness — these fakes are
pushing down the price of authentic jewelry."
"The frustrating part is that eBay just stands
back and lets these people make thousands and thousands of dollars"
while taking a fee for each transaction, Ms. Rogers said. (The company's
profits rose 36 percent in the last quarter from the year before, to
$279.2 million.)
After the spectacular case in 2000 when a fake
Richard Diebenkorn painting was nearly sold for $135,000 on eBay, the
company put in place a handful of safeguards, like the PayPal buyer
protection plan, an improved system for spotting eBay policy violations,
and improved detection of fraud in general. But when it comes to
counterfeit goods, the problem has gotten worse.
Artwork is particularly vulnerable to
counterfeiting. "The majority of things that appear on eBay are fakes,"
said Joel Garzoli, an art gallery owner in San Rafael, Calif.
Mr. Durzy argued that "if we began to
automatically pull listings for things reported to us as fake, we could
be pulling listings that are legitimate." He added that the company had
to rely on trademark owners to "tell us something is counterfeit." Yet
trademark owners like Tiffany say they have gotten no relief.
Ms. Rogers and her team say their efforts may
be working. The number of bids on the fake vintage jewelry pieces has
dropped sharply since they went into action, they say. Nonetheless, the
seller who sold Ms. Pollack the knockoff is still in business and
recently put up for sale a "beautiful Weiss brooch with lots of sparkle
and shine." Starting bid: $9.99.
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Re-Strikes
By David A. Lieberman
One of the "dirty little
secrets" in the movie poster business are Re-Strikes. They are posters that were printed by NSS
(or directly by the studio) for poster
dealers (or for other purposes)
after a movies original release (sometimes
many years after). Sometimes they were authorized, sometimes they
weren't. There are inserts as well as one sheets. May
differ slightly or be EXACTLY the same as the first NSS printing. Are they
ORIGINAL?
IN OUR OPINION THEY ARE NOT ORIGINAL MOVIE POSTERS!!
Usually you can tell it is not,
but sometimes it is impossible to tell!! Usually the quality is identical to
the originals. This is a
very grey area because they come directly from NSS/the studio. There were many Re-Strikes
for popular 70's and 80's movies (see list below).
Because of all the Re-Strikes for
these popular titles, finding an original for these can be quite a challenge.
There were actually price lists
available from NSS in the 1980's for dealers to buy posters! And, if someone had
enough money and wanted 2000 one sheets of a title like "Blade Runner" and had
the right connections, they could order them!
Some known Re-Strike one sheets:
Star Wars Styles A, B, and C
Jaws
Blade Runner
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Raging Bull
Fast Times at Ridgemont High
The Rocky Horror Picture Show
Pulp Fiction
Manhattan
Friday the 13th
Please note that this is not a
complete list.
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Pulp Fiction Advance One Sheet: Beware
of Bootlegs
By David A. Lieberman

THE REAL ONE THE BOOTLEG
The Advance One
Sheet for PULP FICTION was recalled due to a dispute with Lucky Strike (a Lucky Strike
cigarette pack appears on this poster). There are a ZILLION licensed AND
unlicensed reprints/bootlegs of this
one sheet, always on ebay being sold as originals when they are not. They
were printed soon after the recall so they have been around just as long as the
original, fooling many collectors and dealers. THESE ARE NOT ORIGINAL MOVIE
POSTERS, THEY ARE REPRODUCTIONS. Some (not all) of
the bootlegs have been stamped on the back with an authentic looking "Miramax"
stamp. Some
bozo in Rochester N.Y. got the bright idea of putting a Miramax stamp on them to try and make them appear more authentic. The problem is
that MIRAMAX
HAS NEVER PUT A STAMP ON ANY MOVIE POSTER. THIS IS A COLD HARD FACT!! See if
you can find another Miramax film with a stamp on the back of its
poster....you can't. And, these "Miramax stamped" bootlegs are IDENTICAL
to the reproduction poster. The printing quality is also very poor when
compared side by side with a known original.
The original measures EXACTLY 27
1/8" x just over 40" and the paper is on a heavier stock than the
bootleg/repro. If
you look closely at the top edge of the original poster there are white "crackles". On
the bootleg these are cut off slightly. Also, on the bootleg there are white
"specks" on Uma's cleavage. The bootleg is smaller and measures exactly 26 7/8"
x 39 13/16".
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BEWARE OF FAKE SCARFACE ONE SHEETS
and INSERTS
There are a TON of fake Scarface US one sheets out
there. They usually appear rolled and have been sold on Ebay continuously by the
same criminals for years. They have recently been folding them to make them
appear more authentic. There are very subtle differences, but a fake
is easy to spot if you know what to look for. The quality is SPECTACULAR!! Even
many professional dealers have been deceived. If one doesn't know what to look
for, they can easily be fooled.
On the fakes, the printer's "L" shaped
guide/hash marks are missing from all four corners and from the top center. This
is the easiest way to spot them.
The paper on the fakes is slightly thicker,
slightly whiter, and slightly glossier than
the originals. It just doesn't feel right. We have handled hundreds (yes,
hundreds!) of originals and these fakes are just not the same. The exact size of the fakes
are either 26 15/16" x 40 7/8" or exactly 27" x just over 41". Real Scarface one sheets measure exactly 27
1/16" x 41".
The gold ink around the title letters is slightly
brighter on the original. On the top left corner of the fake there is a little
splotch of black ink on the black corner.
The guys who sell the fakes will tell you they are
just a different printing or they are a "printing abnormality" or something
similar. They will deny they are selling bootlegs until the end of time, and
frankly, there is no way anyone can prove they are lying. All knowledgeable dealers and long time collectors know better.
They know which dealers on ebay to stay away from. These guys have an endless
supply. If it looks too good to be true, it probably is.
The
fake one sheets
originated in Europe and come from the same bootlegger responsible for the fake
Spiderman recalled US one sheets. He sells them in bulk to dishonest dealers all
over the world. The fake 14" x 36" inserts come from the minty white
guys in Rochester. Please see our
articles
page for more details on these fake inserts.
In the top two photos, the original is shown on
top of the fake. On the bottom left is the fake, and on the right is the
original. Please click on images for extreme close ups.


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BEWARE OF FAKE JAWS INSERTS!

There are FAKE Jaws inserts. They
are ALL OVER eBay! They usually appear "minty white" like new and have been
sold by the same unscrupulous sellers since the mid 1990's. The quality
is FANTASTIC! This is because they are unauthorized restrikes
printed by NSS in the mid to late 1980's (long after the film was in theaters).
In mid 2007 we got burned on one. These "minty whites" are starting to age
and in some cases are no longer bright white, and if not looked at very
carefully can be mistaken for an original.
There are two kinds of
originals, with and without the PG ratings box. The version with the ratings
box has no known convincing bootlegs, the version without the ratings box is the
one that has a minty white knockoff.
The fake insert has cropped
artwork. In the original (without the ratings box) the shark is "longer" and you
can see a series of more bubbles on the lower right. Also, most of the fakes
have a "hair" - flaw that is to the right and below of the swimmer.
Picture of original with ratings box. Another
picture.
Picture of original without ratings box.
Picture of "minty white" unauthorized
restrike/bootleg.

BEWARE OF FAKE BLADE RUNNER
INSERTS AND ONE SHEETS

There are fake
"re strike" inserts for many titles. Blade Runner is one of them.
(Jaws, Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back, and Scarface are a few of the
other popular ones). They usually
look brand new and are printed on a "minty white" card stock paper. This
bootleg
has fooled practically every poster dealer/expert out there, including some of
the major auction houses! The quality is superior to most fakes. This is because
it came from the same NSS printing facility as the originals. Sometime in the mid to
late 1980's there was an unauthorized print run done after hours by some shady
employees. They collaborated with some criminal poster
dealers/distributors.....and now they are everywhere!!!
If you look
carefully at the two photos you can see where the artwork is slightly cropped on
the outer edges of the re strike/bootleg.
Why is the artwork
cropped? Why wouldn't the counterfeiters try to reproduce them EXACTLY from the
original printing plates? These questions have puzzled movie poster collectors
for years. No one really knows why....but we can hypothesize. Maybe the original
plates were missing or damaged, and maybe they had to create new plates. Since
they came from the same place as the originals (an NSS printing facility), the
counterfeiters had all the materials needed to closely recreate them as best
they could.
We call these
"unauthorized re strikes". Some call them fakes, some call them bootlegs, some call
them counterfeits. Some anonymous guide writers on ebay (these are the guys who
are selling them!) are now claiming they are "garbage" runs from the printing
facility. They are just trying to make them sound legitimate.
Regardless.....whatever one wishes to call them.....they are NOT original movie
posters!! All collectors should avoid these fakes like the plague!!
Here is a
fake/reproduction one sheet for Blade Runner. Notice that it does have all the
NSS info. at the bottom. It is rolled, undersized at 26 5/8" x 39". Real ones
measure a full 27" x 41".


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I Have Some Old Movie Posters and I'm
Thinking of Selling Them: What Can I Expect?
By David A. Lieberman
You have a collection of posters and
you'd like to find out more about them and possibly sell them and get the
best possible price.
This is what usually happens: When a group of
posters is sent to us for evaluation, usually 50-60% of them have little if
any value, 20-30% have some real value, and about 10% are very valuable. Please realize that there are many movie posters that are just not worth a
lot. Just because something is old does not make it very valuable.
Please also be aware that many non U.S. posters are not very valuable and
often do not sell for much when they are auctioned. Sometimes they do sell
for a lot, but sometimes they don't.
If your posters have unattractive defects like tape, stains, holes, etc.,
the value of them will be severely diminished (in most cases).
If your collection was compiled over the years by
a person with discerning taste, most of the posters will likely have
significant value.
If you have Disney
rerelease
posters from the 70's and 80's or Disney titles from not very popular
films from the 60s, 70s and 80's, DO NOT SEND THEM to us. We do not want
them. They usually sell for very little when they are auctioned. Plenty
of them are out there and there is very little demand for them.
"You said my poster is "low value" (it
would likely sell for $5.00 to $20.00 if it were auctioned with no
reserve) but you have the same one listed for a lot on your website. I
do not understand."
Please understand that this is a retail
website and we sell posters for profit to make a living. Just because we
have a poster listed for $200.00 does not mean that we will offer you
$100.00 for it. Many posters that we have listed under $200.00 can
generally be bought by us from wholesalers, at auctions, and from other
sources for considerably less. That is just the way it is. We would not
be in business very long selling low value posters for 2x or 3x
mark up. Sorry, but we will not go into detail and reveal to you our
sources. Try walking into a Mall store and asking them where they get
their merchandise because you would like to bypass them and buy it for
less.
We often acquire low value posters in
bulk lots and pay just pennies for them. The only way to recoup our
investment is to price them the way we do. Remember, we are talking
about posters that virtually NOBODY wants. For every 10 of these that we
take the time to list, maybe one of them will actually sell. Remember,
each poster we try and sell is unique. It must be photographed,
described in detail with any defects, and cataloged and put up for sale.
Each poster takes us at least 30 minutes to an hour to completely
process before it becomes part of our inventory.
If you have a collection of posters acquired
from someone who used to work at a movie theater, please understand that
many movie posters from the 1950's to present day are just not worth a
lot. Many of them will sell for less than $10.00 each if they are
auctioned. These low value posters we do not want, they are just not
worth the time to try and sell them. However, usually within a
collection of posters there are some that are quite valuable. These are
the posters we are interested in.
If your collection comes from the attic of an old
theater, or if it was compiled by a theater employee in the 1980's and 90's,
most of the collection will usually have little or no real value.
Of course,
there will always be some "gold" in there. Some of them will be true
treasures and be worth a lot, but the majority of them will not.
If you only have
posters from the year 2000 until now, please do not bother to contact us. We
are sorry, but we will not be interested in them at all.
If
you are sending us your posters for
Auction Consignment, please do not expect
us to get retail prices for them (prices similar to those on this website).
Sometimes we can achieve these prices, but please don't count on it. When we
auction posters there is no guarantee that they will sell for what you might
think they are worth.
3 PRICE TIERS
When you
decide to sell your posters, depending on how you go about it, there are
generally 3 price tiers for movie poster prices/values. For comparison
purposes, lets look at two completely different U.S. one sheets graded Excellent to Near
Mint C8-C9:
Risky
Business
and
Breakfast at Tiffany's.
1.
LOW-CASH:
The price you get when you sell for
CASH to another dealer or sell it yourself on
ebay. We can usually pick up a Breakfast at Tiffany's one sheet for
$1200.00
to $2500.00
from an inexperienced ebay seller (one of our clients recently found one on
ebay for about $350.00!!). We can usually pick up a Risky Business
one sheet for
$10.00
to $25.00
from an inexperienced ebay seller.
2.
MEDIUM-AUCTION:
The price you get when you have us, a professional auction company, auction
it for you. A Breakfast at Tiffany's one sheet sold by us in a NO RESERVE auction will probably
sell for $4000.00 to $6500.00. After our commission you would get about
$3200.00 to $5200.00.
A Risky Business one sheet sold by us in a NO RESERVE auction will probably
sell for $50.00 to $175.00. After our commission you would get about
$30.00 to $125.00.
Please read all about our
AUCTION CONSIGNMENT
program where we show how we are able to get much higher prices than others.
3.
HIGH-FIXED PRICE:
The price you get with our
FIXED PRICE ON SITE CONSIGNMENT
program. We are the only major
company that is HIGHLY VISIBLE in the movie poster world to offer this
service and that is capable of consistently achieving full retail prices. We
get much higher prices than any of the major auction houses. We will
advertise your poster for sale at a FIXED RETAIL PRICE on our website and in
our ebay store. A Breakfast at Tiffany's one sheet will sell at retail for $7000.00 to
$9000.00. After our commission you would get about
$5250.00 to $6750.00.
(A Risky Business one sheet does not qualify for ON SITE CONSIGNMENT as this
service is reserved for posters valued at a minimum of $500.00). The only real potential downside to
fixed price on site consignment is that it may
take a long time for your items to sell. If you are willing to wait, this is
definitely the way to get TOP DOLLAR for your items.
So........what are your
posters worth? Your posters are worth whatever amount YOU can sell them for,
or the amount you receive after you have a professional sell them for you.
How much will we offer you
in cash for your posters?
Our cash offer price will
depend on several criteria: What condition is it in? How rare is the poster? How much can we buy it
for on eBay or other auction sites when it becomes available? Do we have a
waiting buyer for it? Do we already have one or more in stock? Is it a
desirable poster that moves quickly?
Generally (but not always) if
we want a poster for our inventory we will pay what the poster normally
sells for at auction.
This price could be as low as 30% of our website retail price or as high as
80% of our website retail price.
Please note that if you send
us posters that we do not want (posters that are undesirable because they
are unattractive, or because they are in bad shape), posters that are slow
sellers, multiple copies of the same poster, newer titles, or if we already have one or more in our inventory, our cash offer
may be less.
Please note that posters with
unattractive defects like large tears, stains, water damage, missing paper,
fading, etc. will be worth just a fraction of what they would be without
these defects. Posters in this condition may or may not be suitable for
linen
backing/restoration.
Please realize that we offer
3 options for selling your
posters:
1.
Auction Consignment
2.
Fixed Price On Site
Consignment
3.
Cash
PLEASE BE AWARE:
If you send us posters valued at less than $500.00 for
Auction Consignment,
please do NOT expect us to achieve a "retail" price for them when we auction
them. Sometimes we do achieve retail (prices comparable to posters we have
for sale at a fixed price on this site), but usually auction results are
much less than these prices.
PLEASE DO NOT BE
"DELUSIONAL"
Collectors sometimes think their posters are worth much more than they really
are. Often times when we offer to buy posters for cash we hear "But that is
half of what I bought it for" or "I saw it for sale on ebay for twice that
amount". Please understand that anyone can put a high price on anything and
try to sell it. Just because someone is asking $1000.00 for an item doesn't
mean they won't sell it for $500.00. Also please understand that if we are
buying your posters for cash we will be re selling them and need to make a
profit.
Please be aware that most people with collections to
sell do choose Auction or Fixed Price CONSIGNMENT rather than CASH because they will usually get MORE MONEY than if
we purchase them.
After we evaluate your posters
and quote you a price,
in the unlikely event that you do not wish to sell us your posters or have
us sell them for you, we will gladly ship them back to you.
If you only have
posters from the year 2000 until now, please do not bother to contact us. We
are sorry, but we will not be interested in them at all.
Please
email or call us at 602 309 0500 if you
wish to submit your posters for a quick cash sale.
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Typical Prices
Realized for Some Popular
One Sheet Movie
Posters:
(After commission,
in C8-C9 EX-NM condition or better.) |
CASH
- LOW |
AUCTION -
MEDIUM |
FIXED PRICE -
HIGH |
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Risky Business 1983 |
$10-$25 |
$30-$125 |
n/a |
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Breakfast at Tiffany's 1961 |
$350-$2500 |
$3200-$5200 |
$5250-$6750 |
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Star Wars Style D 1977 |
$40-$100 |
$100-$350 |
n/a |
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Jaws 1975 |
$100-$250 |
$200-$550 |
n/a |
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Pulp Fiction (Regular) 1994 |
$40-$125 |
$150-$375 |
n/a |
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Vertigo 1958 |
$1500-$2500 |
$2500-$5000 |
$4500-$7500 |
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The Terminator 1984 |
$20-$100 |
$50-$250 |
n/a |
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Forbidden Planet
1956 |
$3500-$7500 |
$6500-$12000 |
$11500-$15000 |
Please note: The above price
ranges are estimates and are not set in stone. Accurate as of July 2009.
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What are your posters
worth? Are they original? Will you buy my posters?
By David A. Lieberman
Hello fellow movie poster
collectors!
If we have responded to your
inquiry by pointing you to this link, please forgive us.
On a daily basis we get
several emails and
phone calls from all over the world asking:
"What are my original movie posters
worth?"
"Will you buy my posters?"
"Can you tell me more about my posters, are they original,
real, authentic?"
"How much will you give me for my
posters?"
"If I
consign my posters with your
company, how much can I expect to get?"
YES! We buy posters all the time
from people all over the world. We also accept posters on
Consignment.
The first step is for you to compile a list of exactly what you have and email
it to
cinemasterpieces@gmail.com.
Include the title, year, size, and condition of each poster. You can also email us some photos if you'd like. We will then let you know if we
are interested in them for purchase and/or consignment.
Many who contact us simply want
to know what their item is worth, they want a free appraisal.
Before we can give you a value,
we must
first examine your posters in person.
Once they are shipped to us,
we will evaluate your posters. We will gladly tell you what they
will likely sell for at
Auction,
what we will pay for them in
Cash, and if they qualify what price we will sell them for on
our website in our Fixed
Price On Site Consignment program.
It is
not possible to give free appraisals and/or accurately evaluate posters on the phone or through email.
We need to see posters in person
to see what condition they are in (and to see if they are authentic or not) before we will quote a buy price.
If you email us pictures and ask "What will you pay for these?", we will
ask you to please send them to us for an evaluation.
If you email us a list of your posters with condition descriptions for each one and ask "What will you pay for these?", we will
still ask you to please send them to us for an evaluation.
If you would like a "ball park"
estimate of what your posters are worth BEFORE sending them in.....please
understand that we can't even do that without examining them in person.
Please send us pictures with the prices you want, or you can
send your posters to us for an appraisal/evaluation.
Please understand that it is
just not possible for us to appraise/evaluate posters accurately or to say if they are
original or not on the phone or through email.
Please also understand that we
are constantly bombarded with poster questions from people who have no
intention of doing business with us.
We will be more than happy to
assist you once your posters are here.
We will be more than fair with
you. Please see our
Testimonials page.
How do you know you can trust us with your
consigned posters?
Sorry, but we will no longer give free movie
poster authentication tips by phone or by email.
Please don't ask us "I saw this other poster for
sale from someone else, can you tell me if it is real?" or "Can you tell me
how to tell if this poster is real/original?"
We get questions like this several times a day. We
honestly just do not have the time to walk people through authenticating a
poster. If you'd like to send posters to us to authenticate so we can
buy them from you or put them on consignment, please do!
How much will we offer you
in cash for your posters?
Our cash offer price will
depend on several criteria: What condition is it in? How rare is the poster? How much can we buy it
for on eBay or other auction sites when it becomes available? Do we have a
waiting buyer for it? Do we already have one or more in stock? Is it a
desirable poster that moves quickly?
Generally (but not always) if
we want a poster for our inventory we will pay what the poster normally
sells for at auction.
This price could be as low as 30% of our website retail price or as high as
80% of our website retail price.
Please note that if you send
us posters that we do not want (posters that are undesirable because they
are unattractive, or because they are in bad shape), posters that are slow
sellers, multiple copies of the same poster, or if we already have one or more in our inventory, our cash offer
may be less.
Please note that posters with
unattractive defects like large tears, stains, water damage, missing paper,
fading, mounted to foam or hard board, etc. will be worth just a fraction of what they would be without
these defects. Posters in this condition may or may not be suitable for
linen
backing/restoration.
Please realize that we offer
3 options for selling your
posters:
1.
Auction Consignment
2.
Fixed Price On Site
Consignment
3.
Cash
PLEASE BE AWARE:
If you send us posters valued at less than $500.00 for
Auction Consignment,
please do NOT expect us to achieve a "retail" price for them when we auction
them. Sometimes we do achieve retail (prices comparable to posters we have
for sale at a fixed price on this site), but usually auction results are
much less than these prices.
PLEASE DO NOT BE
"DELUSIONAL"
Collectors sometimes think their posters are worth much more than they really
are. Often times when we offer to buy posters for cash we hear "But that is
half of what I bought it for" or "I saw it for sale on eBay for twice that
amount". Please understand that anyone can put a high price on anything and
try to sell it. Just because someone is asking $1000.00 for an item doesn't
mean they won't sell it for $200.00. Also please understand that if we are
buying your posters for cash we will be re selling them and need to make a
profit.
Please be aware that most people with collections to
sell do choose Auction or Fixed Price CONSIGNMENT rather than CASH because they will usually get MORE MONEY than if
we purchase them.
After we evaluate your posters
and quote you a price,
in the unlikely event that you do not wish to sell us your posters or have
us sell them for you, we will gladly ship them back to you.
If you have mostly "newer"
posters from the 1980's until now, please be aware that most (about 75%) of
them will have little if any real value.
If you only have
posters from the mid 1990's until now, please do not bother to contact us. We
are sorry, but we will not be interested in them at all.
Please
email or call us at 602 309 0500 if you
wish to submit your posters for a quick cash sale.
Please also read these articles:
I Have Some Old Movie Posters and I'm
Thinking of Selling Them: What Can I Expect?
I'd like to send my posters to you for sale
or consignment, how do I proceed?
How can you tell if a movie poster
is "original" "real" "authentic"?
If you have a lot of posters and/or they are extremely
valuable, please call us at 602 309 0500, we may come to you!
Anyone is welcome to send us
photos of their posters at anytime, and sometimes we can give a quick "ballpark" value
estimate.
Usually though, we can't answer
without seeing them in person.
The photos we receive through email are frequently not detailed enough for us to
judge the true condition of a poster, and VALUE GREATLY DEPENDS ON CONDITION. There are also many REPRODUCTION posters
that have little if any value, and these are sometimes very hard to distinguish
from originals with just a photo. Unless you are willing to ship them to
us for evaluation and/or
consignment, it is impossible to answer with an exact figure or
to tell you if they are authentic/original or not.
Before being evaluated, POSTERS MUST BE REMOVED FROM ANY FRAMES. When we give appraisals or make offers we usually have to see the posters in person.
If you are a collector of movie
posters you may have come across one or more of the many price guides
that are out there. Jon Warren's, Poster Price, etc.. All of
these sources for prices are good, but they are just GUIDES to value, not
exact prices. Many times they are quite accurate
in helping you determine the value of a poster, many times they are
not! Some have data that is quite old and hasn't been updated in many years. None of these guides
are 100% complete and none should be used as
a single source in determining the value of a poster.
Unlike other collectibles like
coins, comics, stamps, baseball cards, etc. where you can get almost an
exact value for your items using price guides, the world of movie posters is
VERY different.
There are thousands of posters
that I can use as an example, but lets take the Jaws 1975 US one sheet in
Excellent-Near Mint unrestored C8-C9 condition. I have bought one of these on eBay in
Excellent-Near Mint C8-C9 condition for $25.00. I have also sold more than a few on eBay
in the same condition for over $700.00. I have sold a few here on this
website for over $1000.00. I monitor eBay and these usually sell for $150.00
to $300.00 from other sellers. If someone came to me with one to sell I
would probably offer them $200.00 to $300.00. Back in 1999 one of the price guides shows
Sotheby's sold one for $1092.00 (on linen).
Lets also look at the Revenge of
the Jedi 1983 US one sheet in Excellent C8 condition. I have sold this
poster on this website for over $1000.00 more than a few times. I have sold
it on eBay many times with prices ranging from $450.00 to over $1000.00. I
have bought it on eBay for as little as as $80.00 and as much as $300.00.
So, what is the current value of
these posters? If you don't have one and want one it is worth whatever you are
willing to pay for it. If you have one and wish to sell it, it is worth
whatever you are willing to take for it. Many people do not like this
answer, and I don't blame them. This is just the way it is in the world of
collectible vintage movie posters!
The above examples show that a
movie poster can bring vastly different prices when marketed and sold by
different people. A poorly marketed poster with an incomplete description,
poor photos, and sold by someone with no track record will bring MUCH less
than someone who is an expert at selling movie posters.
EBay has completely changed the
world of collectible movie posters (it has changed the world of all
collectibles!). We constantly buy/win posters on ebay DIRT CHEAP, and
then turn around and auction them ourselves for more (usually much
more!). Click here
to learn how we are able to do this. In short, our expertise in marketing
movie posters and our vast knowledge of them gives us a tremendous
advantage over other ebayers.
If you want to sell your
posters to us outright and avoid consignment:
We guarantee that if we buy your
posters from you, NO ONE WILL PAY YOU MORE FOR THEM THAN WE WILL. The TRUE
VALUE of any poster is primarily determined by it's condition, so we must
first see your posters in person so we can see if they are original and see
what shape they are in. Only then will we make you a firm offer.
Anyone is welcome to
send us their posters at any time. After we receive them and
have discussed them with you, in the unlikely event that you do not wish to
sell us your posters or have us sell them for you, we will gladly ship them
back to you.
If
you consign your posters with us WE GUARANTEE WE WILL GET YOU THE MOST MONEY
POSSIBLE AND WE GUARANTEE THAT WE WILL GET YOU MORE FOR THEM THAN IF YOU
SOLD THEM YOURSELF.
The best way to determine the
value of your posters and to get the most for them is to have us sell them for you on
consignment, either
on our site or on ebay. We get MUCH more than other sellers so you will get
the highest amount possible if you let us sell them for you.
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